Comments on: Writely frustrations… and ideas http://mastersofmedia.hum.uva.nl/2006/10/10/writely-frustrations-and-ideas/ Research Blog Masters of New Media Sun, 12 Feb 2012 21:19:25 +0100 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: JeffVansky http://mastersofmedia.hum.uva.nl/2006/10/10/writely-frustrations-and-ideas/comment-page-1/#comment-289 JeffVansky Thu, 12 Oct 2006 08:13:25 +0000 http://mastersofmedia.hum.uva.nl/2006/10/10/writely-frustrations-and-ideas/#comment-289 A planning tool would also be useful. It doesn't have to be a tool like <a target="_blank" title="http://www.rememberthemilk.com/" href="http://www.rememberthemilk.com/" rel="nofollow">Remember the Milk</a> , but something simpler would really be useful as we are now planning outside of the tool were using to create the document. A planning tool would also be useful. It doesn’t have to be a tool like Remember the Milk , but something simpler would really be useful as we are now planning outside of the tool were using to create the document.

]]> By: Peppie http://mastersofmedia.hum.uva.nl/2006/10/10/writely-frustrations-and-ideas/comment-page-1/#comment-288 Peppie Wed, 11 Oct 2006 22:23:07 +0000 http://mastersofmedia.hum.uva.nl/2006/10/10/writely-frustrations-and-ideas/#comment-288 The problem with a wiki or a blogpost is that it's hosted right off the bat. That's no problem with a local wiki, but you're going to get your ass fried on the wikipedia sites. I think the fact that what you create in writely doesn't get published until you want it to is its key advantage over other kinds of collaborative writing online. In other words, let's not write it off completely. The IRC channel is still there (irc.utonet.org:6667 #MoM) and I've already seen Twan and Anne pop by. It's a bit of an overkill to bother with the channel for writely only, but since we're all in the same class we might as well use it for, well, anything MoM-related. Twan's suggestions for an upgrade of writely are valid though. There needs to be some kind of easy yet powerful way to discuss things. A discussion tab and a chat would certainly be the way to go. The problem with a wiki or a blogpost is that it’s hosted right off the bat. That’s no problem with a local wiki, but you’re going to get your ass fried on the wikipedia sites.

I think the fact that what you create in writely doesn’t get published until you want it to is its key advantage over other kinds of collaborative writing online.

In other words, let’s not write it off completely.

The IRC channel is still there (irc.utonet.org:6667 #MoM) and I’ve already seen Twan and Anne pop by. It’s a bit of an overkill to bother with the channel for writely only, but since we’re all in the same class we might as well use it for, well, anything MoM-related.

Twan’s suggestions for an upgrade of writely are valid though. There needs to be some kind of easy yet powerful way to discuss things. A discussion tab and a chat would certainly be the way to go.

]]> By: Twan http://mastersofmedia.hum.uva.nl/2006/10/10/writely-frustrations-and-ideas/comment-page-1/#comment-270 Twan Tue, 10 Oct 2006 22:54:42 +0000 http://mastersofmedia.hum.uva.nl/2006/10/10/writely-frustrations-and-ideas/#comment-270 Double-effort-ish... Or something like that! :) The dividing of the tasks is a good idea, thanks for the list! But don't you all agree that in a program where collaboration is one of the main features, there should be options which make good collaboration possible in the first place? Ranking on parts of a collaborative text sounds like a fresh idea by the way, more ideas? Double-effort-ish… Or something like that! :)

The dividing of the tasks is a good idea, thanks for the list! But don’t you all agree that in a program where collaboration is one of the main features, there should be options which make good collaboration possible in the first place?

Ranking on parts of a collaborative text sounds like a fresh idea by the way, more ideas?

]]> By: roman.tol http://mastersofmedia.hum.uva.nl/2006/10/10/writely-frustrations-and-ideas/comment-page-1/#comment-269 roman.tol Tue, 10 Oct 2006 21:22:54 +0000 http://mastersofmedia.hum.uva.nl/2006/10/10/writely-frustrations-and-ideas/#comment-269 writely in this case seems double-trouble (eeh... dubbelop) writely in this case seems double-trouble (eeh… dubbelop)

]]> By: AnneHelmond http://mastersofmedia.hum.uva.nl/2006/10/10/writely-frustrations-and-ideas/comment-page-1/#comment-266 AnneHelmond Tue, 10 Oct 2006 20:42:30 +0000 http://mastersofmedia.hum.uva.nl/2006/10/10/writely-frustrations-and-ideas/#comment-266 Apparently you can directly publish your Writely documents on your (e.g. Wordpress) blog: http://www.dutchcowboys.nl/software/8186/fromfeed (in Dutch) or http://krijnen.com/archives/000524.shtml (in English) Apparently you can directly publish your Writely documents on your (e.g. Wordpress) blog: http://www.dutchcowboys.nl/software/8186/fromfeed (in Dutch) or http://krijnen.com/archives/000524.shtml (in English)

]]> By: AnneHelmond http://mastersofmedia.hum.uva.nl/2006/10/10/writely-frustrations-and-ideas/comment-page-1/#comment-265 AnneHelmond Tue, 10 Oct 2006 20:33:27 +0000 http://mastersofmedia.hum.uva.nl/2006/10/10/writely-frustrations-and-ideas/#comment-265 So I have to write my part in the Wikipedia? Did we officially abandon Writely? How do we discuss the different parts? So I have to write my part in the Wikipedia? Did we officially abandon Writely? How do we discuss the different parts?

]]> By: roman.tol http://mastersofmedia.hum.uva.nl/2006/10/10/writely-frustrations-and-ideas/comment-page-1/#comment-264 roman.tol Tue, 10 Oct 2006 18:42:22 +0000 http://mastersofmedia.hum.uva.nl/2006/10/10/writely-frustrations-and-ideas/#comment-264 haha... I see.. even managers have a boss.. and i c thats u ;) I will make a skeleton wiki entry and a list of 'suggested' names to fill the paragraphs haha… I see.. even managers have a boss.. and i c thats u ;)

I will make a skeleton wiki entry and a list of ’suggested’ names to fill the paragraphs

]]> By: evarosa http://mastersofmedia.hum.uva.nl/2006/10/10/writely-frustrations-and-ideas/comment-page-1/#comment-262 evarosa Tue, 10 Oct 2006 17:49:09 +0000 http://mastersofmedia.hum.uva.nl/2006/10/10/writely-frustrations-and-ideas/#comment-262 Since my rule of our writely document "Ten Rules of Collaboration" (which ironically got stuck at rule number 4) was to indicate a so called collaboration manager, can we maybe do that for writing this new document? Roman, since you wrote down the tasks, could you maybe also divide the tasks? (and than that could just be your task ;)) Since my rule of our writely document “Ten Rules of Collaboration” (which ironically got stuck at rule number 4) was to indicate a so called collaboration manager, can we maybe do that for writing this new document?

Roman, since you wrote down the tasks, could you maybe also divide the tasks? (and than that could just be your task ;))

]]> By: heleen http://mastersofmedia.hum.uva.nl/2006/10/10/writely-frustrations-and-ideas/comment-page-1/#comment-261 heleen Tue, 10 Oct 2006 14:42:56 +0000 http://mastersofmedia.hum.uva.nl/2006/10/10/writely-frustrations-and-ideas/#comment-261 With the last comment I meant that we are hoping more people would comment on our posts and get involved in our discussions. We're not waiting to get shut down with a spam overload, but intelligent comments on our posts are always welcome! With the last comment I meant that we are hoping more people would comment on our posts and get involved in our discussions. We’re not waiting to get shut down with a spam overload, but intelligent comments on our posts are always welcome!

]]> By: heleen http://mastersofmedia.hum.uva.nl/2006/10/10/writely-frustrations-and-ideas/comment-page-1/#comment-260 heleen Tue, 10 Oct 2006 14:37:41 +0000 http://mastersofmedia.hum.uva.nl/2006/10/10/writely-frustrations-and-ideas/#comment-260 Michael that is fine! Anyone's opinion is welcome! Michael that is fine! Anyone’s opinion is welcome!

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